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		<title>The Suffering God Cannot Save :: Addendum</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems that a few other folks are poking around with the same question as my recent series of posts on David Bentley Hart&#8217;s The Beauty of the Infinite and the question of divine impassibility.  Their thoughts are more concise and poignantly articulated than my own stumbling efforts, so if thinking through God&#8217;s compassionate [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>It seems that a few other folks are poking around with the same question as <a href="http://ericdarylmeyer.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/david-bentley-hart-right-and-wrong-on-impassibility-1-of-4/">my recent series of posts</a> on David Bentley Hart&#8217;s <em>The Beauty of the Infinite</em> and the question of divine impassibility.  Their thoughts are more concise and poignantly articulated than my own stumbling efforts, so if thinking through God&#8217;s compassionate suffering is a live question for you, you might do well to visit:</p>
<p><a href="http://inhabitatiodei.wordpress.com/2008/07/11/divine-suffering-is-divine-impassibility/#comment-7428">Halden&#8217;s post&#8212;&#8221;Divine Suffering <em>is</em> Divine Impassibility&#8221;</a><br />
<a href="http://theologyforum.wordpress.com/2008/07/11/david-bentley-hart-on-the-trinity/">Kent Ellers and James Merrick&#8217;s&#8212;&#8221;David Bentley Hart on the Trinity&#8221; </a></p>
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		<title>The Academy and the Poor (Part 3 of 3)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 16:05:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Back to Part 2) 
5. In the end, I still dislike framing the question in terms of justification, as if there is a right path (presumably paved with gold) to be found. Are the activities of reading, writing, and teaching just in the face of the world&#8217;s poor? I am tempted to answer simply and quickly, [...]]]></description>
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<p>5. In the end, I still dislike framing the question in terms of justification, as if there is a right path (presumably paved with gold) to be found. Are the activities of reading, writing, and teaching just in the face of the world&#8217;s poor? I am tempted to answer simply and quickly, &#8220;no.&#8221; <em>Nothing</em> can be justified in the face of five year-olds dying of malnutrition and diarrhea or young girls violently robbed of virginity by uncles and cousins. To be blunt, the whole situation is shitty and we are all implicated. We all, academics included, need to hang our heads in shame&#8212;and redouble our efforts to eradicate such blatant evils. But how are we to go about dealing with these problems? Obviously, we should not isolate ourselves from the world&#8217;s horrors (frequenting only &#8220;the nice parts of town&#8221;), and when we are in position to act directly (by providing food or intervening on behalf of the vulnerable), we ought to do it. But we also need to see more clearly the tangled network of problems (cultural, social, economic, political, spiritual, ecological) that make these horrors more likely to occur, and take steps to counter them. And <em>we all need to see it</em>, at least in part, which is why we need skilled teachers in many disciplines. The analysis, conversation, and collaborative action that this requires is a larger and (unfortunately) much slower project.</p>
<p>And even beyond the quest to overcome specific problems with exact solutions, academic inquiry is no worse-off in a quest to justify its own continued existence than is, say, painting, playing the cello, attending an opera, or debating the merits of some piece of legislation. One of Bonhoeffer&#8217;s letters from prison has been haunting my thoughts for months, &#8220;The only thing I am really clear about in the whole problem is that a ‘culture&#8217; that breaks down in the face of danger is no culture. Culture must be able to face danger and death&#8230;.By finding forgiveness in judgment, and joy in terror?&#8221; The gist of Bonhoeffer&#8217;s statement (assuming I understand it), is that any activity that cannot be carried with us into the hardest and most broken parts of the world is not worth bringing along at all. Culture, in this sense, cannot be diversions that ignore suffering (<a href="http://experimentaltheology.blogspot.com/2008/06/ovens-at-buchenwald.html">like the Buchenwald zoo</a>) or the dissipated merriment of cynics resigned to a dark &#8220;fate&#8221; (fiddling while the Titanic sinks). But, it is possible, I dare say necessary, to put expression to profound moments of beauty, rage, fear, and reverence even where taking the time to do so seems, at first glance, superfluous. What else might the first seeds of redemption (a &#8220;re-deeming,&#8221; a new birth of meaning) in the present look like? It is impossible for any of us to hold shattered lives together in a seamless narrative of &#8220;meaning,&#8221; but giving some fragments of meaning space to expand&#8212;whether howling lament or salvaged scraps of laughter-is perhaps to find God&#8217;s Spirit at work already. I do not want to be a part of any theology that floats by the slums on a luxury cruise-liner, or tours them on an air-conditioned bus. Rather, I want to find theology &#8220;in the face of danger and death,&#8221; to search out &#8220;forgiveness in judgment, and joy in terror.&#8221; Anything less is no theology at all.</p>
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		<title>The Academy and the Poor (Part 2 of 3)</title>
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3. The study and teaching of theology, of all disciplines, is perhaps most likely to turn out to the benefit of the poor. This assertion has never been truer than it is in the present. The hegemonic economic and political structures that bind people in poverty (or encourage them to bind themselves) [...]]]></description>
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<p>3. The study and teaching of theology, of all disciplines, is perhaps most likely to turn out to the benefit of the poor. This assertion has never been truer than it is in the present. The hegemonic economic and political structures that bind people in poverty (or encourage them to bind themselves) are based on myths about humanity and humanity&#8217;s role on the planet. The beginnings of justice are found in the telling of a better story; the trajectory that leads to real justice culminates in worship. The operant myth behind the thick curtain is that human beings are essentially (naturally, rationally, pragmatically&#8212;pick your adverb) in charge, in control, and self-directed. Some people lose, and some people win, but the game is all about who gets the most choices. And far too many of us are eager to participate in the eschatological promise of &#8220;Progress&#8221;: perpetual growth through cycles of innovation, consumption, and commodification that opening ever new vistas of &#8220;liberation&#8221; enabling us to increasingly self-determine the reality we recieve (from family size to facial structure, from the temperature of our desk chairs to the &#8220;branding&#8221; of our own personalities).</p>
<p>Thus, the interminable conversation about who should bear the blame for poverty&#8212;in caricature, either the lazy, good-for-nothing, mooching addicts <em>or</em> the self-interested powermongers perpetuating the oppressive system that locks people out&#8212;is interminable because both options are sub-plots of the same story. Mutual service, genuine friendship, or really anything beyond the hollow pretense of politeness are not possible where the human ideal is buffered autonomy. Puffed up in our own knowledge of good and evil (our pretense to sovereignty), we die. As we die, we kill. Who can tell a story that excises this curse?  The old myth (the old lie, really) needs to die, and theology patiently but adamantly proclaims the truths that choke this dragon. Human beings are for worship and for service; human beings are for the delight of their Creator; human beings are for the good of the whole planet.  Liberation is found in the community reconciled to one another, to God, and to all creation.</p>
<p>Where is this story told? Foremost, it ought to be the hallmark of every church on every street corner. Yet all too often, churches have assimilated (and subsequently promulgate) aspects of the old lie. Theologians are charged with two tasks in this regard: 1) helping (polemically, if necessary) the church to express more clearly in words and action her central commitments, 2) exposing the dangers and deviations, through careful and rigorous analysis, of false stories about gods, humans and creation. Those tasks involve long conversations with people on all sides&#8212;those who are members of the church, and many who are not. Theologians, at their best, help to keep the church faithful to the poor. In part, they do so by calling to account the people and systems that benefit from exploitation.</p>
<p>4. Really learning theology (which only means thinking deeply about the whole gospel) always drives people toward the poor because this particular good news is about the God who favors the poor and dwells with them. There are few truly original ideas under the sun (none, according to <a href="http://www.ibs.org/bible/verse/index.php?q=Ecclesiastes&amp;submit=Lookup+Verse&amp;tniv=yes&amp;display_option=columns&amp;v_mode=on&amp;t_mode=on">Qoheleth</a>), so the theologian&#8217;s task is not necessarily to formulate a host of new ideas, but to find ways of expressing the gospel that lead people to action. The ideal mode of theology is a conversation rather than a book&#8212;an interaction between people (perhaps even in a classroom) that moves toward action. The writing of books is a requisite part of this endeavor, but theological texts can only be understood properly within cycles of conversation that incorporate concrete practice. The impartial or disinterested theologian is a most perverse creature because theology is necessarily modeled as much as it is taught, insofar as it is expressed in the church&#8217;s preaching and prayer (neither of which make any sense without active service).</p>
<p>(<a href="http://ericdarylmeyer.wordpress.com/2008/07/12/academy-and-poverty-3-of-3/">On to Part 3</a>)</p>
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		<title>The Academy and the Poor (Part 1 of 3)</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[About a week ago, Dan asked folks to consider the merit of their academic endeavors in light of the plight of the world&#8217;s poor. He argues, quite rightly, that:
I believe that, confronted as we are with the massive brokenness of the world, and the suffering of our neighbours, our academic endeavours must be shaped by [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p>About a week ago, <a href="http://poserorprophet.livejournal.com/141987.html">Dan asked folks to consider</a> the merit of their academic endeavors in light of the plight of the world&#8217;s poor. He argues, quite rightly, that:</p>
<p>I believe that, confronted as we are with the massive brokenness of the world, and the suffering of our neighbours, our academic endeavours must be shaped by certain commitments. We are not free to pursue every little rabbit-trail that we find captivating.</p>
<p>And so Dan asks us: &#8220;When confronted with &#8220;the Poor&#8221; of today, how do you justify your academic endeavors?&#8221; </p>
<p>I wrote this before starting to read <a href="http://poserorprophet.livejournal.com/142767.html">Dan&#8217;s own efforts to answer the question</a> posed, not least because his answer is likely to be more thorough and insightful than my own. I have five responses, which I will post in three segments. </p>
<p>1. The strange place of theology within the academy is both a boon and a burden of responsibility in pushing to reconcile the activities of study and teaching with the realities of poverty. Many theologians profess to work for the church even as they are employed by a university (and other academics sometimes wish that they actually did). Theological writing and teaching is always, from my perspective, done in service of the church&#8217;s preaching and prayer. Good theology is an aid to preaching the gospel with clarity and an effort to pray more truly. My own modest academic goals are entirely circumscribed within the life of the church-the church whose life is bound to the poor (even and especially when that is forgotten). If I didn&#8217;t think that academics could genuinely be an act of service on that order, I hope that I&#8217;d have the integrity to start bending nails for a living.   </p>
<p>So if academic theology cannot be done as an act of service, one rendered unto &#8220;the Poor,&#8221; then I do not want any part of it. No doubt there are countless academics gratified by the satisfaction they find in being able to introduce themselves as some sort of scholar. No doubt there are many who enter the academy with the intention of crafting for themselves a lasting name through a brilliant career of research and publication. I cannot totally disavow every trace of such motives in myself, though I confess them before God and others. But there is still more substance to the academy than mere pretense-<em>abusus non tolit usum</em>-the abuse does not negate the use.</p>
<p>2. Second, taking up academic work is no more a <em>barrier</em> to working for and with the poor than earning one&#8217;s living by, for instance, selling shoes. The choices made as an academic can insulate someone from the plight of the unfortunate and broken, or they can bring someone into closer proximity. While academic study does require hours (and hours) of solitary reading, thinking, and writing; when that work is placed within the context of a whole life, it is not inherently alienating-one&#8217;s companions are still a matter of choice. Both as a student and as a teacher, one can hide behind a pile of work and find oneself &#8220;too busy&#8221; to do anything for others-but there is nothing necessary or inevitable about this. In speaking of academics and poverty, we are not talking about oil and water.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Come November, the theological blogging world will be abuzz with conversation about Dietrich Bonhoeffer&#8217;s Ethics and its echoes and implications within contemporary theology. The ever-prodigious Halden of Inhabitatio Dei, has initiated this collaborative endeavor and is asking for contributions. Consider sending Halden a few lines if you are interested in venturing an essay or a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><a href="http://ericdarylmeyer.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/dietrich_bonhoeffer.jpg"><img class="alignright size-full wp-image-237" src="http://ericdarylmeyer.files.wordpress.com/2008/07/dietrich_bonhoeffer.jpg?w=176&h=272" alt="" width="176" height="272" /></a>Come November, the theological blogging world will be abuzz with conversation about Dietrich Bonhoeffer&#8217;s <em>Ethics</em> and its echoes and implications within contemporary theology. The ever-prodigious <a href="http://inhabitatiodei.wordpress.com/">Halden of <em>Inhabitatio Dei</em></a>, has initiated this collaborative endeavor and <a href="http://inhabitatiodei.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/bonhoeffer-blog-conference-call-for-papers/">is asking for contributions.</a> Consider sending Halden a few lines if you are interested in venturing an essay or a response. Those who are involved in the historic first rendition of what is sure to become a venerable tradition are likely to gain for themselves fortune, fame, and a reputation for excellent theological taste.</p>
<p>Probably not, but the conference will still be fun.</p>
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		<title>the academy and the poor</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dan started a meme on the question: &#8220;When confronted with &#8216;the Poor&#8217; of our day, how do you justify your own academic endeavours?&#8221; While there is a limit to the value of introspective and meta-level analyses (let&#8217;s do something more than just talk about why we do what we, supposedly, do), this is an inquisition well-worth [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><a href="http://poserorprophet.livejournal.com/141987.html">Dan started a meme</a> on the question: &#8220;When confronted with &#8216;the Poor&#8217; of our day, how do you justify your own academic endeavours?&#8221; While there is a limit to the value of introspective and meta-level analyses (let&#8217;s do <em>something</em> more than just talk about why we do what we, supposedly, do), this is an inquisition well-worth enduring. And it is especially timely for me to think through the question in light of <a href="http://ericdarylmeyer.wordpress.com/2008/04/02/doctoral-studies-impending/">my own plans for the fall</a>. So, I&#8217;ve been intending to respond ever since Dan posted the question, and actually working one out on paper in the last day or so. Until I put those words in their final form, <a href="http://ericdarylmeyer.wordpress.com/2007/04/06/fridays-guilt-saturdays-solidarity-a-few-thoughts-on-responsibility/">here are</a> <a href="http://ericdarylmeyer.wordpress.com/2007/03/23/theology-and-power-whats-the-use/">a few posts</a> <a href="http://baileyinmontana.blogspot.com/2007/03/pull-theological-plug.html">and conversations</a> related to the theme, mostly instigated by the <a href="http://www.baileyinmontana.blogspot.com/">wild fellow from Montana</a>.</p>
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		<title>‘The Suffering God Cannot Save’ :: David Bentley Hart, Right and Wrong on Impassibility (Part 4 of 4)</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(Back to Part 3)
It is precisely because divine apatheia is not a possession subject to loss or diminution that God does not penuriously guard his life, but opens himself to creation and suffers with it. No one can change God or force God to act, no one can conjure or coerce God&#8217;s presence or action-God [...]]]></description>
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<p>It is precisely because divine <em>apatheia</em> is not a possession subject to loss or diminution that God does not penuriously guard his life, but opens himself to creation and suffers with it. No one can change God or force God to act, no one can conjure or coerce God&#8217;s presence or action-God is never passive. But where God is open in love, he does not stand passively aloof, impervious to the plight of his beloved. God&#8217;s unchangeable infinitude is not at risk where God aches with longing and is pained by the dissolute state of creation-this too is an expression of the boundless variation within the unchanging generosity of God&#8217;s triune life. Thinking in this way helps us to express both God&#8217;s suffering and God&#8217;s <em>apatheia</em> in properly analogical terms. Hart correctly insists that &#8220;God is incapable of experiencing shifting emotions within himself&#8221; (as if manipulative ploys had any foothold), but to this <em>similitudo</em>, we must insist upon a <em>maior dissimilitudo</em> and say that God is not devoid of emotional intensity or insensitive with regard to his beloved creation (355). Likewise, if we are to speak of God&#8217;s aching solidarity with those who suffer, a solidarity that transgresses every boundary we can imagine (Hades itself), we must also insist that according to a <em>maior dissimilitudo</em>, God&#8217;s suffering does not incapacitate and diminish him (as suffering does to us). God never says, &#8220;It would have been better if&#8230;&#8221; with regard to God&#8217;s own boundless life; God&#8217;s life always <em>is</em> better in the mutual exchange and enrichment of the divine economy. </p>
<p>Hart&#8217;s positive understanding of divine infinitude is sufficiently capacious to incorporate theological attentiveness to the whole of Scripture&#8217;s narrative with regard to God&#8217;s immutability and impassibility, including a nuanced account of the emotional intensity and pain ascribed to God&#8217;s experience therein. Unfortunately, Hart allows his metaphysical predilection for a more univocal understanding of divine <em>apatheia</em> to eclipse this conceptual openness and thereby falsely constrains his understanding of God and in docetic fashion meticulously evacuates the cross of the divinity hung thereupon. Despite himself, Hart helps us understand how Bonhoeffer is, in my estimation, finally correct: &#8220;Only the suffering God can help.&#8221; </p>
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		<title>‘The Suffering God Cannot Save’ :: David Bentley Hart, Right and Wrong on Impassibility (Part 3 of 4)</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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Yet, despite insisting that divine apatheia does not override God&#8217;s scriptural self-revelation or make the divine pathos out to be an illusion, Hart insists that even the cross holds no suffering for God (355).  Through the Son, God attends and possesses the human suffering of the cross (and does so &#8220;inseparably&#8221; according [...]]]></description>
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<p>Yet, despite insisting that divine <em>apatheia</em> does not override God&#8217;s scriptural self-revelation or make the divine <em>pathos</em> out to be an illusion, Hart insists that even the cross holds no suffering for God (355).  Through the Son, God attends and possesses the human suffering of the cross (and does so &#8220;inseparably&#8221; according to Chalcedon), but, he insists, God (<em>qua </em>God) does not suffer pain there. Hart rightly upholds patristic paradoxes like that of Melito of Sardis, &#8220;in Christ the impassible suffers,&#8221; but mistakenly goes further to assert that Jesus&#8217; cry of dereliction (&#8221;My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?&#8221;) is only his &#8220;human voice,&#8221; words uttered in the place of all humanity, rather than as a expression of God torn from God.  He argues, somewhat strangely, that if this cry fits into the divine economy at all, it ought to be heard as a darker expression of the same interval whereby the eternally begotten Son is differentiated from the unbegotten Father (360). Hart insists that only the God who is beyond all suffering is capable of saving us. By restricting the suffering of the cross to the Son&#8217;s human nature, Hart (like Cyril before him) draws the blinds on the view that his own thinking about God&#8217;s infinity has opened up for him. In so doing, he foregoes an opportunity for greater theological fidelity to Scripture by a manifest preference for restrictive metaphysical preconceptions of divinity. Yet, we must be clear, Hart (again like Cyril) is not wrong in his affirmation of divine impassibility; it is just that impassibility is not a univocal description of God capable of expressing God&#8217;s character without the qualification of analogical difference. </p>
<p>(<a href="http://ericdarylmeyer.wordpress.com/2008/07/02/david-bentley-hart-right-and-wrong-on-impassibility-part-4-of-4/">On to Part 4</a>)</p>
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		<title>‘The Suffering God Cannot Save’ :: David Bentley Hart, Right and Wrong on Impassibility (Part 2 of 4)</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 19:24:35 +0000</pubDate>
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Hart’s positive expression of God’s infinity opens the space to speak about divine pathos, not as a deficiency, but as another modulation of his unconquerable and incorruptible love. The fullness of divine revelation is found in Jesus Christ and as the gospels tell it, God’s life as a human being progresses inexorably, [...]]]></description>
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<p>Hart’s positive expression of God’s infinity opens the space to speak about divine <em>pathos</em>, not as a deficiency, but as another modulation of his unconquerable and incorruptible love. The fullness of divine revelation is found in Jesus Christ and as the gospels tell it, God’s life as a human being progresses inexorably, almost magnetically, toward the cross in Jerusalem where God joins humanity (and all creation) in suffering, alienation, torture, death, and in the very depths of hell. Suffering and pain are not thereby to be understood as an attribute of the unchangeable God, like an incurable affliction, but as yet one more expression of divine openness and sharing of life. The cross is God’s glory (John) precisely because it makes visible the fullness of God’s triune openness and love. The same self-giving love by which the Father begets the Son and sends forth the Spirit (and receives the joy of his life in their return) is the self-giving love that knowingly, willingly, freely, and obediently swallows the suffering and death of creation because it pains God to see his creation languish. God’s pathos is an amplification of his love rather than the weakness of a God subject to the violence, control, or coercion of others. The resurrection shows that even in stretching to encompass pain, death, and the depths of hell, God’s peace is unbroken, God’s love is unconquered, God’s infinity is undiminished. The persistence of Christ’s wounds on his Resurrected body demonstrate that wounded-ness is no diminution of God’s life and that God’s bliss cannot be etiolated by exposure to violence. Nor can it be said that death is a necessary player in this drama, or that suffering is the attribute of God whereby his love is eternally demonstrated; death is exposed as nothing, suffering is revealed to be only the short darkness of a night bounded by endless day. To recognize that God genuinely suffers in Jesus Christ is not to subject God to change because (1) this suffering is not imposed upon God but freely borne, and (2) because God’s immutability is not a flat stasis, but the tireless repetition of a fathomless generosity found both in the Trinity and in the history of salvation.</p>
<p><a href="http://ericdarylmeyer.wordpress.com/2008/07/01/david-bentley-hart-right-and-wrong-on-passibility-part-3-of-4/">(On to Part 3)</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Over the next few days I&#8217;m going to post the verbal fruit of my wrestling with Hart on the issue of divine impassibility. The reflections here are meant to be experimental&#8212;to see whether this line of thinking might be successful, or whether it will fall flat. 
Thesis: David Bentley Hart’s strong advocacy of a positive [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<div class='snap_preview'><br /><p><em>Over the next few days I&#8217;m going to post the verbal fruit of my wrestling with Hart on the issue of divine impassibility. The reflections here are meant to be experimental&#8212;to see whether this line of thinking might be successful, or whether it will fall flat.</em> </p>
<p>Thesis: David Bentley Hart’s strong advocacy of a positive and determinate understanding of divine infinitude provides the framework for an affirmation of divine <em>pathos</em> (in fidelity to scriptural descriptions of divine emotion and pain) that does not negate the traditional ascription to God of impassibility (<em>apatheia</em>). Unfortunately, not only does Hart pass this opportunity by, he also scorns it as he does so.</p>
<p>One of the central tenets of <em>The Beauty of the Infinite</em> is that the infinity of God’s triune life cannot be understood as something like a lack of finitude, or a negative sort of transcendence cognizable as absence from everything immanent. God is not infinite in a way that is bland and indeterminate—like an endless powerful fog—but in sheer abundance and excess. Moreover, God does not suffer from a failure to be finite, nor can infinitude be defined in dialectical opposition to created finitude—God and the universe are not opposites divided by any boundary. In other words, God’s infinity pervades the finite and always exceeds it. God’s transcendence crosses all borders and overcomes all limits. The freedom of God’s love is expressed ever anew in unspeakable creativity, transformed and transfixed in the endless self-giving exchange between Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The surfeit of God’s life is marked by an infinity that cannot be exhausted or circumscribed, but repeats itself in endless modulations and harmonies on the theme of love. Far from standoffish loftiness, God’s infinity is closer than we can dare to think, yet beyond simple capture in any concept, picture, or image.  </p>
<p>(<a href="http://ericdarylmeyer.wordpress.com/2008/06/30/david-bentley-hart-right-and-wrong-on-impassibility-part-2-of-4/">On to Part 2</a>)</p>
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